Wow, what an amazing post!! Thank you for this Guy. I tend to marinate and process things before replying in a meaningful way since exciting things cause so many pathways in my brain to light up at once. There’s some synchronicity too, like the bread and butterflies. My kids picked Alice in wonderland back up two days ago after it sat on the shelf for years. The bread and butterfly jumped out at me even if it wasn’t explicitly explained, I’ve not actually heard before what you described! Smiling, shifting, planning!
I like much of what you say and the authors you refer to. But as time passes and I resonate more with the arguments that question the fundamental assumption of a man-made global warming crisis . As more and more scientists from Judith Curry (Climate Uncertainty and Risk) to Steven Koonin (Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn't) and many others, we not only need to question the validity of the popular narrative, but also why we seem to be driven to think in such certain terms around large scale complex systems (more pandemics are coming soon ring a bell?). Perhaps the right brain needs to engage more in holistic complexity theory, and question motives and behaviours more fundamentally.
The work of Dr Mattias Desmet and "Mass Formation Psychosis" comes to mind.
This is highly relevant and I am quite puzzled that many smart people are not seeing it.
It seems like a reasonable questioning of the official story around climate change has been successfully framed as 'climate denial' – which couldn't possibly be a more stupid phrase. But we had that before, as much as we had secret service action before to move the critical side toward a point of ridicule and a brand of lunacy and paranoia, instead of thoughtful consideration and skilled discernment.
So yes, it seems to be building on the mass formation psychosis pattern, playing all the people who would normally be opposed to the psychopathic moves of established power, but that are now played along their empathy – unable to figure out that mass surveillance is here (a bad conspiracy theory once), collective sentiment can be read, and in the tongue of the people can be spoken.
It's a tricky place to find myself in: Seeing the actual damage we do and squaring that with our climate psychosis, essentially understanding CO₂ to be synonymous with climate change.
The whole environmental narrative shifted from soil degradation, wildlife reduction, ecosystem deterioration and all the real damage we do … to 'let's build big turbines to suck plant food out of the air' for a hefty return.
That seems very convenient, as the whole story is quite hard to falsify – originally a pillar of scientific reasoning.
We seem collectively gaslit on this, using truth – we have an ecological crisis, big time – as the basis of deception – let's hyper-obsess over CO₂ and get some personal carbon allowances going while creating a market with mathematically guaranteed returns (supply reduction with probably rising demand).
This is a really dangerous game to play, because the genuine changemaking itch of potential future-shapers is led astray and held captive.
It's an old pattern that we nevertheless struggle to catch.
Churchill advised to 'never let a good crisis go to waste', while the gates of Troy opened to the wooden horse ages before that.
People struggle to comprehend that the cultural dialogue is not just something organic and emergent, but called out to be engineered for decades now, with new possibilities heaping on (astroturfing, algorithmic suppression, etc)
Alright, these were just a few thoughts that had to come out since I just left a wonderful talk on this with some emotional depth, that nevertheless completely lacked the critical thinking side to the topic – despite containing a number of psychologists.
In contrast, seeing this was a breath of fresh air, gracias.
PS: Take care still, there's a lot of bullshit floating around on both sides. Reality is not easily determined these days.
Those of us who have been keen on conservation of environment for decades have had the biggest jolt in understanding the power inversion that is taking place on environment.
I think for many of us, Covid provided a quick and sharp lessons: Do not trust centralised authorities that offer costly utilitarian nonsensical hubristic solutions to complex systems problems that they actively simplify into moneymaking ritualistic nonsense. Your sentence put it quite succinctly: "Churchill advised to 'never let a good crisis go to waste', while the gates of Troy opened to the wooden horse ages before that."
Perhaps we need to actively decentralise knowledge building and dialogue while consciously developing right-brain common sense to avert from the fragility of the emerging Towers of Babylon.
Wow, what an amazing post!! Thank you for this Guy. I tend to marinate and process things before replying in a meaningful way since exciting things cause so many pathways in my brain to light up at once. There’s some synchronicity too, like the bread and butterflies. My kids picked Alice in wonderland back up two days ago after it sat on the shelf for years. The bread and butterfly jumped out at me even if it wasn’t explicitly explained, I’ve not actually heard before what you described! Smiling, shifting, planning!
...Aligning...
Hi Valerie!
Hi Jess! Happy little online community we’ve got going here 😄
Yeees, The Flip is our way out of this mess.
It's digging right into our source code, opening a pathway where a reductionist scientific paradigm would keep us locked into not seeing any way out …
… as it's trying to extrapolate the future from dire past trends and human biological determinism.
… overlooking almost everything that is signaled to us right now.
I feel we share a way of thinking and even a style, what a curious thing to run into.
Okay, it showed up! I see Valerie down below. Happy she has found you too!
Hi Guy,
Nice to see you here. This is a test post to see if my post will show up here.
I like much of what you say and the authors you refer to. But as time passes and I resonate more with the arguments that question the fundamental assumption of a man-made global warming crisis . As more and more scientists from Judith Curry (Climate Uncertainty and Risk) to Steven Koonin (Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn't) and many others, we not only need to question the validity of the popular narrative, but also why we seem to be driven to think in such certain terms around large scale complex systems (more pandemics are coming soon ring a bell?). Perhaps the right brain needs to engage more in holistic complexity theory, and question motives and behaviours more fundamentally.
The work of Dr Mattias Desmet and "Mass Formation Psychosis" comes to mind.
You're on it, happy to read this.
This is highly relevant and I am quite puzzled that many smart people are not seeing it.
It seems like a reasonable questioning of the official story around climate change has been successfully framed as 'climate denial' – which couldn't possibly be a more stupid phrase. But we had that before, as much as we had secret service action before to move the critical side toward a point of ridicule and a brand of lunacy and paranoia, instead of thoughtful consideration and skilled discernment.
So yes, it seems to be building on the mass formation psychosis pattern, playing all the people who would normally be opposed to the psychopathic moves of established power, but that are now played along their empathy – unable to figure out that mass surveillance is here (a bad conspiracy theory once), collective sentiment can be read, and in the tongue of the people can be spoken.
It's a tricky place to find myself in: Seeing the actual damage we do and squaring that with our climate psychosis, essentially understanding CO₂ to be synonymous with climate change.
The whole environmental narrative shifted from soil degradation, wildlife reduction, ecosystem deterioration and all the real damage we do … to 'let's build big turbines to suck plant food out of the air' for a hefty return.
That seems very convenient, as the whole story is quite hard to falsify – originally a pillar of scientific reasoning.
We seem collectively gaslit on this, using truth – we have an ecological crisis, big time – as the basis of deception – let's hyper-obsess over CO₂ and get some personal carbon allowances going while creating a market with mathematically guaranteed returns (supply reduction with probably rising demand).
This is a really dangerous game to play, because the genuine changemaking itch of potential future-shapers is led astray and held captive.
It's an old pattern that we nevertheless struggle to catch.
Churchill advised to 'never let a good crisis go to waste', while the gates of Troy opened to the wooden horse ages before that.
People struggle to comprehend that the cultural dialogue is not just something organic and emergent, but called out to be engineered for decades now, with new possibilities heaping on (astroturfing, algorithmic suppression, etc)
Alright, these were just a few thoughts that had to come out since I just left a wonderful talk on this with some emotional depth, that nevertheless completely lacked the critical thinking side to the topic – despite containing a number of psychologists.
In contrast, seeing this was a breath of fresh air, gracias.
PS: Take care still, there's a lot of bullshit floating around on both sides. Reality is not easily determined these days.
Thank you for the reply. I cannot agree more.
Those of us who have been keen on conservation of environment for decades have had the biggest jolt in understanding the power inversion that is taking place on environment.
I think for many of us, Covid provided a quick and sharp lessons: Do not trust centralised authorities that offer costly utilitarian nonsensical hubristic solutions to complex systems problems that they actively simplify into moneymaking ritualistic nonsense. Your sentence put it quite succinctly: "Churchill advised to 'never let a good crisis go to waste', while the gates of Troy opened to the wooden horse ages before that."
Perhaps we need to actively decentralise knowledge building and dialogue while consciously developing right-brain common sense to avert from the fragility of the emerging Towers of Babylon.